Lie Like the Wind

So you want to attend AA but not sure if you’re really an alcoholic? That’s ok.  You don’t have to know for sure.  All you have to do is lie. That’s what everyone else does.  Confess your powerlessness. Say that you want to stop drinking but can’t.  No matter how hard you tried. Who knows what that even means?  Maybe it’s really true.  Embrace your alcoholism.  Wear it like a badge.  Re-evaluate your entire life in this new context.

And if you’re still not sure, just lie.  Lie like a rug.  Lie like a Louisiana hooker.  Think of a stupid thing you did and then blame it on alcohol.  It’s easy:  I <insert sin here> because I drank <insert alcoholic beverage here>.  For example, “I lost my job because of rum.”  “I yelled at my wife because of fuzzy navel.”  Don’t worry the stupider it sounds the more everyone will believe it.  And the best part is, you can always resume ‘denial’ as soon as you step out the door.  Remember, AA is a drinking club.  Go to the bar and have a drink.  In a weird way, it actually proves your lie — just be sure to call it a ‘relapse’ and remember it’s a normal part of ‘recovery’.  Congratulations on your shiny new disease!

If you do this, if you perpetrate this simple lie, I promise you, the scales will fall from your eyes.  A new world will open up in front of you.  You will witness and discover amazing things.

So go ahead, lie like the wind!  And have fun!  Just remember, don’t mix alcohol and drugs!

Then come back and report your findings in the comments below.

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202 thoughts on “Lie Like the Wind”

  1. You’re the myth! What’s your payoff from this scam? How do you explain the millions who are successfully recovering in AA?
    You people sound like chronic relapsers who couldn’t be fearless, thorough, and honest. – Chuck M. (Sobriety date 10.15.76)

      1. This guy is a fucking idiot. Ya I say it like it is. Not hi g you have said or ever said for that matter is based on fact. Do a little research and you will eat your words. What happened to you? Couldn’t stay sober so now you have to blame aa for your failure?

    1. you’re right, you don’t have to.
      the choice is yours. life is about choices.

      handing over your personal power and agreeing
      to become forever dependent on something outside
      of yourself is necessary for that something to have
      full control over you. and it works.

      it has worked beautifully worldwide. it works through
      lies and fear. and addictions. it has changed our world.
      we have all seen it. and it is evil. and it is powerful – but
      only because so many good people have given up their
      power to it. that’s how it works.

      for convenience, i will call this something the united nations,
      as the worst psychopaths on the planet have gathered under
      its aegis, have founded and fund it, to trick people into giving
      up their power and submitting to, even welcoming, world
      government control.

      it might seem too great a leap from aa to world domination by
      psychopaths, but it is not at all. the usurpers have control over all institutions and basic life needs (check out un world water rights). there are UN NGOs – tens of thousands of them – for control of every aspect of life on this planet. including addiction. aa is a un ngo. there is no such thing as a good un ngo.

      remember this quote? – “just look at us. everything is backward,
      everything is upside down. doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroys information, and religion destroys spirituality”. michael ellner
      this is so for the purpose of physical and psychological control and destruction. if you want to completely control six billion humans this is a good plan. if you’re a psychopath.

      drug/alcohol addicts are not special. no special interest groups here – that is divisive and dangerous; it appeals to nicely deflated egos. everyone is addicted to something.

      those perpetrating the crimes against life are addicted
      to control. among other things. they want us all to be addicted as well. they work very hard at that. keeps us occupied. they will make sure you are completely unable to ever recover from addiction. has that ever raised a red flag for you? they have
      convinced many people that, magically, the power of choice and
      change belongs to them and not to you. bummer. : – )

      i never minimize the struggles and suffering of those working to
      overcome obstacles in their lives and live consciously. i have had to overcome much in my life. we all have. we all have.

      that being said and understood, i respectfully and lovingly posit:
      aa has encouraged you to take on a much larger addiction that
      encompasses and holds in place other addictions.
      vis., an addiction to aa.

      i am happy to have come across your website. thank you.

      sovereignty, creativity and much love to us all –

      a

      don’t believe everything you think ~ anonymous

  2. The anger and self-righteousness blasting out of some comments prove an important point to me: if we need to attack another’s opinion in order to defend a belief system, how can that belief system ever lead us to freedom? I have been blasted at meetings for questioning some of AA’s cult/religion – like structure. Basically, one is either with them or against them. Coercion and intimidation? Yeah, old school behavioral science. It works, except for those of us who refuse to abdicate our thinking privileges.

  3. In your flyer (The Myth of Alcoholism) you state that drinking is a choice.
    Well, since neurologists have shown us we have no freewill and that we live in a godless, deterministic universe, I guess your whiny little argument just got its ass kicked by scientific method.
    Addiction and alcoholism are very real. Alcohol and drugs are readily available and because people can’t help but watch themselves do that shit, you see addiction is rampant.
    Your one stupid little spitfuck. Maybe you should quit drinking and popping pills long enough to read a credible book. You’re just a resentful piece of shit.
    AA may be ignorant by encouraging faith and conversion but you even more retarded for thinking drinking isnt a problem. LOL Fucking dumb.
    Its especially funny when dumb fuck kids who dont read think they have freewill.
    Like I said, educate yourself you little cunt.

    1. Neurologists have not shown we don’t have free will, or that we live in a deterministic universe, even if some guy who claimed to have a degree in science said so during a smoke break at a meeting. (That is irrelevant anyway.) As for the neurological basis of addiction, that is pure speculation and any scientist will admit to that. (And if you disagree please post a peer reviewed article to the contrary.)

      So if we live in a godless universe then how exactly does AA work by making you believe in god(s)? That is wishful thinking at best and a lie at worst. It is certainly not science. By your own logic. The claim that “I couldn’t stop drinking no matter how hard I tried” or “I couldn’t help but watch myself drink or drug” is exactly the lie that is taught in your drinking club that you now claim not to be a member of even as you insist it did wonders for your loved ones, who were cured by belief in a “lie” even as you insist their belief in their own addiction wasn’t a lie and you accuse me of lying. What hypocrisy.

      Addiction isn’t rampant. The craving lie is rampant. Nor does your stream of vulgar insults lend credibility to your scientific claims. You need to educate yourself.

  4. This web site is not based in fact; some anti AA, anti ” God as you understand him.
    That’s it, probably some militant atheist; some how they are so full of hate when others have peace, hope, love and faith in their lives.
    True AA doesn’t work for everyone and there are problems with AA ; but it has worked for millions; this is medical fact.

    1. Or this web site is funded by the Liquor industry.
      Nice try but it’s easy to see through the web page; pity the addicted fool who believes this web page.

      1. No funded by pro-legalization people; they live in a stoned out stupor and never experience live as it could or would be; but some how think they are the only ones really living life- a very sad lot these addicted folks.

      2. Atheist addict sad hateful troll funded by the liquor industry. OK you got me.

        And you’re funded by the fake disease model theory. Even worse, you convince innocent people that they have a disease (on top of their other problems) and exploit them for sex or money and sometimes get them to kill themselves.

        AA hasn’t saved anyone. But the addiction industry has killed millions.

        Your rebuttal, lol.

    2. but there is hope; my you fine him now.
      LOL again : )
      This web site would be so funny if it weren’t so sad;
      I have to go now, your making me laugh too hard : )

  5. 15 minutes I spent reading this web site ,…………….and the only thing I have to show for it is GUILT of wasting 15 minutes of my life that I will never get back. There is no valid information here, only the semi-articulate bashing of AA and addiction fellowships,…… with no empathy or true caring for other human beings, let alone a lucid solution to a great problem. This is a revenge project built by a desperate little soul. Addiction Myth, what makes your heart beat? I think you are a man who does not really like people ,..but craves their attention. So you went to a meeting and everybody did not recognize your genius and did not warm up to your narcissism,,……..and now you are a little asshole with sand in his vag and not one iota of genuine caring for you fellow man. Get the grit out of your vag, grow a spine, get a life,….and give up being an asshole.,……and I will try not to waste another 15 minutes of my life.

    1. Wow I think I just got schooled on ‘empathy’ by a guy who calls himself ‘bush ranger’ and compares others to body parts. Please, tell me more about ‘true caring for other human beings’. You sound like a real expert.

      I don’t know what your ‘great problem’ is, but I suspect that ‘alcoholism’ is the least of it.

  6. AA/NA does save lives. Even tho I don’t currently attend, N I used to hate going to meetings, my life use to have meaning when I did, and it was SO much better, and I regret the day I caught a resentment and stopped attending over a year ago. I’m in active addiction and life sucks. Whoever the fuck this person is down talking fellowship is a total dickface n must have a miserable existence to just shit on other peoples miracles, n should really check there own backyard. Remember Misery loves company. It must of really struck a cord inside this bitch at whatever meeting they went to, n they just might be suffering from some type of addiction or sickness to feel the need to belittle anyone else’s way of life. It’s real easy to be a internet tough guy, especially to people of fellowship, who will do nothing but kill you will kindness, but I won’t. Notice the AA’s replies are full of compassion and understanding for your stupid ass, while the person badmouthing AA, is just a dick n “trying” hard as they can to punch holes in ppls. responses, and I haven’t seen a hole yet. I’d love to punch a hole right in your face. Only reason I even bothered to post a reply is because these people are just being WAY to nice about it. What truly pisses me off is that no matter how much you put down the fellowships, you’re still Always welcome to any meeting you attend, yet you obviously don’t welcome anyone’s real life responses on here, even tho you asked for ppls. drunkalogs. I assume it was just so you can get your rocks off by trying to make fun of their stories. Addiction/Alcoholism is a Disease. And if you don’t agree you might not be an addict, or maybe the drugs or alcohol has washed away any common sense you USED to have. You’re welcome AA/NA people.

    1. So you’re in “active addiction” because you “caught a resentment”. Exactly my point. Addiction is not a disease. It’s a drugging club for losers like you looking for any excuse to drug and stir up trouble. And then go back to AA when they start to get on your case and claim you couldn’t help it because you have a disease and you’re powerless to drugs. Even though you admit you are just feeling resentful! Wow you are an idiot.

    2. Hey Casper. U hit the nail on the head…that person who wrote the article is a huge DICKHEAD! Not to mention proving his lack of intelligence and his remedial ability to develop an educated original opinion. But this world is full of dickheads. We can’t kill them, so we just have to continue our own journey and give them the same freedom to continue down theirs. As we say in our fellowship (“cult” lol) live and let live. But any person calling AA a cult is proving that they r an idiot. A wise man once told me, “when u argue with an idiot, u can’t tell who the idiot is!!!”

      1. Yeah, that’s how researchers in the medical sciences demonstrate the merits of their data – by calling other people dickheads.

        Charming and oh so convincing.

      1. I have observed that the program pushes people’s buttons until they kill themselves and then says they just couldn’t get it. “Constitutionally incapable of being honest” and meanwhile the biggest liars are running the meetings!

    1. I am at the end of two years sober in AA and was drunk for decades before. Never thought I had a drinking problem until my daughter asked me to stop drinking and join her in AA. I Didn’t understand why I couldn’t cope without drinking everyday. As I practice the program I am beginning to see how I can live a better life. Thanks AA

      1. That’s so weird – you yourself, in your own adult life, didn’t think you had a problem – but your daughter says you do and you go off to AA meetings and believe what they say about you is true?

  7. This site is ridiculous. It ranges from aggravating to asinine to useless. As a member and supporter of AA since 2008 (as well as someone who has “relapsed” but keeps coming back because I know there’s a solution to living life better around the tables), I will say I sort of get what the web site author’s trying to communicate…every crowd will always have its share of people who give a bad name…but, I really don’t understand the point. Why blast the program and a way of life that has LITERALLY improved and SAVED countless lives. If you have a problem with it, fine—then just don’t come to meetings and drink to your heart’s content. Nobody in AA will (or should) tell you that you shouldn’t drink if you’re an alcoholic…it’s actually the most natural thing for an alcoholic to do. But this crap about alcoholism not being a disease and the program being a cult is just ignorant and makes you sound stupid. I’m no doctor, but I believe the millions of doctors who agree with its diagnosis. Scientifically, while treatable, it is involuntary/genetic (in most cases, people don’t “ask” to be addicted to alcohol and its innate sufferings), progressive (it almost always just gets worse rather than better without some form of treatment), fatal (alcoholism WILL kill you if you don’t respect it), and it is not curable.

    I get that there’s controversy around this topic but try to be sensitive to the volume of people who have died or lost loved ones to this insidious, powerful, cunning, and patient “condition” (if disease is too strong a word for you). It doesn’t really matter…the cause and effect is what’s important. If you think you have a drinking problem then you likely do. I would suggest perhaps dropping the false bravado and at least having the courage to try out a meeting or two…you may find you like it. You may eventually find your life is improving, people actually genuinely want to be around you, and you might even notice you can be happy and content at things like concerts, ballgames, weddings, vacations, etc. without alcohol being a mandatory companion.

    I honestly would need a 400-pg book to fit my “drunkalog” but with maturity and common sense, most of you naysayers will find the real interest lies in the SOLUTION, not the problem.

    1. AA is not the solution to alcoholism. It is the CAUSE of alcoholism. As your drunkalog would amply demonstrate. Please post, you can have as much space as you like!

      Many people go through a heavy drinking phase and then they get over it. It’s called getting older. It’s not easy. I think that the fellowship at AA is great, but what’s not great is that you have to admit powerlessness. And that makes you drink, and allows some people to be exploited and killed. That’s my problem with AA. As the commend below says, ‘lying is the real cause of addiction’. Which is funny because that’s what you guys say at meetings but you don’t realize that it’s literally true.

      1. You just don’t have a clue. What scares you so much about AA you must have gone to a meeting? Or are you just mad at somebody with untreated alcoholism. AA saved my life I could not stop drinking, believe me I tried everything under the sun to stop the last thing I wanted to do is go hang out with a bunch of drunks. I didn’t have a choice but to go that or die. Sober since 1993. My life is a wonderful happy one.
        I’m sorry you have so much fear in yours.

    2. I applaud your positive and encouraging comment. Many alcoholics tend to be very negative without realizing it and it is usually reflected in what they say or write about anything. Part of improving their lives is to partake in some program that promote positive messages.

    3. Thank you. This article is nonsense. AA saved my life and I don’t believe in god. Alcoholism is a disease. That’s science, bitch. Any real doctor will tell you that. This person obviously didn’t do there research. They must just be sick in there own way.

  8. The lying may be the real cause of an addictive personality which in turn becomes a pathological excuse for being captured by it.

  9. I found this because I have a slight tendency to get trashed every night. It’s not a disease though. Smallpox is a disease. This is just self-pity, weakness, boredom, addictive personality, anxiety, an easy way out from having to think anymore that day. stupid. you don’t have a disease, I don’t have a disease, we’re just a bunch of pussies.

  10. Whoever created this website really needs to get a life….and they sound like a dry drunk! Whew..blessed that I don’t have to live my life that way anyway.

    Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path!

  11. Oh my gosh. I can only assume that whoever created this website is simply unable to get sober. I watched alcoholism kill both of my parents when I was a teenager, and the alcoholism went back generations for both. I am sober 11 years, and I assure you, the only reason is because of AA; I tried everything else. I am just a normal gal, with a genetic & fatal disease, which is now in remission. Good luck to you!

  12. AddictionMyth, you keep telling people to post their drunkalogs to prove a point. Here is mine. I look forward to you ripping it apart. Should be fun. Hi my name is B and I’m an alcoholic, thanks to my higher power, a sponsor and AA rooms I have been sober since Oct 31 1994, I have not had a drink or used drugs recreationally since that date. I started drinking in middle school. My first drunk allowed me to get past my social anxiety and a very bad ear ache, and for the first time in my life I felt ok. My lack of feeling ok was largely caused by a messed up up bringing by two loving yet dysfunctional people who were raising 5 kids together. From almost that time on, when ever I drank I seemed to have no power over how much I drank. I had power over picking up that first drink.
    Though the power of will, the desire to please people, get good grades, not puke on people seemed to have less less and less weight against my desire for the relief that alcohol brought me. I was drunk when I lost my virginity, though I will admit it was something I wanted to do, just didn’t have the courage. Most of the bad, self destructive ideas were there before the drink, the drink just took away any sense I had to do the right thing. The more I did the wrong thing, the less I had the will to to do the right thing and blah blah.
    Eventually shortly after my 21 birthday I got an OWI (DUI for Iowans). I went to a counselor, told her about my childhood, she told me she would of drank too, and that I was probably not a alcoholic, but the court required me to take this test anyway. I answered the 40 question asked 40 ways with some honesty since she had told me I wasn’t an alcoholic. I went on to court got a deferred judgement and a probation officer. Here was my get out of jail free card, as long as I completed my year of probation with no issues, this thing was gone. My probation officer said “your of legal age you can drink, but if you get any arrests, drunk and disorderly etc this deferred judgement is gone. ” So I set out to control and enjoy my drinking. Here was the catch, I couldn’t control and enjoy my drinking. I could have a beer and then sit around irritable and white knuckling it – or I could get drunk and enjoy it.
    My honesty on that test got me treatment, outpatient due to lack of insurance, and up until the weekend before I started treatment I tried not to get drunk, and failed over and over and over again. By the time I showed up I was so disgusted with this I was willing to listen. In that treatment group there were a bunch of middle agers – about the age I am now. And most had been there before, and they didn’t make continuing to drink sound fun. Most had lost jobs, families, one guy his fingers. So I decided to give sobriety a chance. I was in a college town so when I finally started going to outside meetings I met ALOT of people my age and younger who were staying sober and enjoying their lives. Going to dances, actually dating (that didn’t involve sex the first night) camping, hiking, all kinds of stuff. They were graduating and getting jobs. Always in the room were the old timers that kept a close eye. The guys stuck with the guys and the girls stuck with girls. You hit on or dated a new comer and it didn’t go unaddressed. I can say almost 20 years later I can count about 20 or so of those young people who are still sober and active in AA WITHOUT RELAPSES. I graduated from college, followed my non AA boyfriend to a different town, and when he left me for a different drunk, all I had was the women of AA to help me. My next relationship could of gone the way alot of the stories I’ve heard here did, but the guy was really into AA and I followed him because that is what I did. At first because I wanted him to like me, then because I saw a change in me. Fired my sponsor because she said I shouldn’t date so quickly. Got a new one and worked the steps, so when that relationship finally died I was able to do this thing without following in his footsteps. Became a member of on my own. I have always been gainfully employed since coming to AA, successful enough to own a nice house in a good neighborhood, drive a newer car. Went to Jamaica to celebrate my 15th wedding anniversary with my also AA member husband. I never got into pot but he had, and it was a little harder than he would of guessed, but he refused each and every joint offered. Am I happy all the time, no. Am I always the mother I want to be, no. Is that because I am an alcoholic, no That is because as Louie CK said I am sometimes a fucking asshole. What makes me an alcoholic, is that after all trouble I got into drinking, the years of listening to all the women who come into my home group who tell the stories about DHS in their lives because of their drinking, sometimes there is still a voice that says. A drink would make it better. And a drink never did anything but convince me to do the things my morals told me were a bad idea. I’m powerless over what alcohol does to my body and my inhibitions. I have proved that I am powerless over what happens when I take that drink. These years in AA has taught me that drunks make shitty mothers, bad employees, cheating wives. And I need all my faculties about me to not be those things.

    All AA has ever asked of me, is that I try to pay it forward. Try to share how I stayed sober through this situation or that. Have I had people try to use me for money or take advantage of my time. Hell yes. Are their annoying people who I would rather not associate with, hell yes That also happens at work and PTO too. Because I can’t kick them out, and I never know if there the last ones who can help me, I try to figure out how to have the best possible (not perfect) relationship with them but they aren’t all my besties.

    I sponsor 3 women who have over 10 years each, all are outstanding members of their communities. None were when they came in. I didn’t do that, they did the work, they found a strength, a power that was not of their own making, I just helped to guide them as best I could. There is power that exists in my life today, that if I tune into it, gives me strength to try and be the best person I can be.

    I fully accept that I may die, stand in judgement by some other religions God and be found wanting or that all of this that I do was BS, I accept that. But if I lived my life causing as little collateral damage. Oh well.

    My home group is a woman’s meeting, we exist because women will put on a show for men and yes 13 stepping happens. There is alot of love, laughter, bitching, whining, and sobriety. Women come to hear how other women stay sober through death, motherhood, divorce, and potty training. Do we all like each other all the time, no, do we love each other yes. I skipped many years, a ton of work, and some funny stories but you asked for my drunk a log, there it is. Shoot holes in it, I can take it. :) PS Im not unique where I come from.

    1. Thank you for the drunkalog! What a rare surprise.

      “when ever I drank I seemed to have no power over how much I drank…. the drink just took away any sense I had to do the right thing…. And a drink never did anything but convince me to do the things my morals told me were a bad idea. I’m powerless over what alcohol does to my body and my inhibitions”

      Yes exactly my point. And if you actually list the exact things you did when you lost your ‘inhibitions’ you will discover the true reason for your drinking and the need to believe that you couldn’t control it. Please just don’t claim it’s a disease, and please stop telling newcomers that they are powerless to alcohol, because they just might believe it and kill themselves in a moment of weakness.

      1. Your ignorance is beyond belief! I’ve personnaly seen AA SAVE lives. Do some research regarding the disease of alcoholism so you can know you’re talking about.

      2. Hey asshole; whoever you are with such resentment that you have to trash other people who sincerely want a better life for themselves and their families; if you knew anything at all you would know Alcoholism was classified a MEDICAL DISEASE by the American Medical Association in 1954. You’re a top notch idiot who doesn’t know shit about alcoholism. If you don’t agree with AA, no one would want you there anyway. You’re a narrow minded, short sided, obviously uneducated bitch. Get a life, and leave others to have theirs. No one asked you for your fucking opinion anyway, jerk.

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